Forums => Musical Instruments => Topic started by: rAnDolf sHitler on February 14, 2015, 10:37:27 PM

Title: Pedals, effects, and such
Post by: rAnDolf sHitler on February 14, 2015, 10:37:27 PM
This is a thread in which to discuss and/or post your questions about pedals and/or effects, blah blah blah.

I have done this in order to ask a question actually.... so yeah, I am a fucking self-serving bastard.  OK?  I get it.  I have violated forum ettiquette and shit, and I can't even spell fucking ettiquette.  WhatEVER!!!  Jesus, just trying to add a little fucking content to this site, but NO, I'm a fucking selfish asshole polluting the forum with stupid n00b questions that no one is really going to answer seriously anyway.... FUCK YOU AND FUCK THAT UGLY KID NEXT TO YOU TOO!!

.... whew, OK, back on topic ....

As you may or may not be aware I have been playing bass the last few years, and looking to build a pedal board and pick up probably 2 pedals to join the only one I currently have which is a boss tuning pedal.  Don't even know exactly what I want or need..... dipping my toe in so to speak.

So for bass, playing rock, punkish rock, some classic rock, metalish/hard rock, what would be a good start?  I am thinking a fuzz and a chorus to start...??  Is this crazy talk??  Does it make sense??  Any advice/experiences/thoughts?  Any brands you have loved or hated?  Help me Obi Wan, you are my only hope....


Title: Re: Pedals, effects, and such
Post by: shen on February 14, 2015, 11:35:49 PM
Get yourself a Big Muff so you can get the tone from Sabotage. That's all you need.

Synth pedals are fun too. I've got a Digitech Synth Wah, which is pretty versatile.
Title: Re: Pedals, effects, and such
Post by: rAnDolf sHitler on February 19, 2015, 03:54:58 AM
I picked up a bass soul food from electro harmonix, which is pretty much a mild overdrive pedal.  Will try it tomorrow night with my mates...  Doing some research it seems a compressor is a handy pedal to get also and especially for those of the n00bular persuasion, i.e., me..  Another handy one seems to be a DI pedal to go into PA systems and such.... but I usually have my amp anyway.

Think I am going to DIY a pedal board from an IKEA shelf kit that I found instructions for online, with a few of my own tweaks.
Title: Re: Pedals, effects, and such
Post by: rAnDolf sHitler on March 02, 2015, 04:47:43 PM
Finished beta-version 1 for myself, (pic 1 with 3 pedals).

My bandmate/guitar player came over on the weekend and we built one for him (pic 2 with more pedals).

Now, I hate mine because I did it quickly without properly counter-sinking anything, so am going to do alpha-version 2 for myself again.

Off to IKEA at lunch again to buy another shelf pack.   :D  (at the massive cost of $8)
Title: Re: Pedals, effects, and such
Post by: ~MM~ on March 13, 2015, 05:28:06 AM
I'm jealous of his polytune. I'll probably buy one of those eventually. I don't really gig so it would more be about how cool they are than anything but, they ARE really cool so...

I'd dig into the world of fuzz pedals. They are pretty key for bass. They are also a very wide market. I will really recommend the Great Destroyer from Dwarfcraft if you want something that is reasonably priced, completely different than anything else you can find, and also a fun DIY project. You can buy the regular one for a reasonable price (i just found out on a google search) or you can buy the DIY kit for $60 right from his website. I did and it was well worth that. Possibly just for the fun alone (although it was a challenge to cram those wires into the kit).

That being said, despite its massive amounts of fun it isn't the most useable pedal on the market. It runs almost exclusively as a fun box for me. It can definitely be tamed though and it tames up much better on bass than on guitar. I'd go as far as to say it sounds better on bass than on guitar but, I still very much enjoy it. It is literally sensitive to everything you can adjust also (including tone knobs on the guitar itself).

This video seems to highlight its ability to make nonsense more than anything but, I stress it is tameable (he leaves at least one of the knobs set to an extreme at all times). The starve knob is basically there to push parts of it to their operating minimum as far as voltage is concerned. Dialing that back starts to tame the thing immediately. Seems to react to every little bit of wiring differently as it doesn't sound the same for any two of my guitars nor my roommates basses.

Here's the guy that made it demoing it.
Title: Re: Pedals, effects, and such
Post by: mudhoney on September 07, 2017, 12:41:38 PM
has anyone had much experience with joyo> A cheap Chinese brand, i picked up joyo doner boost for less than 30 (-$38), now the reviews are pretty good on-line, my issue is I have no frame of reference for a boost pedal. A lot of reviews compare it favourably to some MXRs/higher budget pedals.

The reason I ask is

A) I wanted to post something musical here.
B) I use it as an always on boost specifically to add a bit of drive to any clean parts, and i quite like what it does when I stomp on my distortion pedals. However, i'm looking to buy a new one, to add some boost to any solos (think Smashing Pumpkins/Billy Corgan in Gish/Siamese Dream eras).

So anyone has have any opinions on these?

I've been reading a bit about these cheaper pedals flooding the market, and some appear to be straight-up copies of more expensive models and i'm impressed with the reviews, however I also have a cheap phaser + delay, the phaser is not so bad when it's turned to a low rate but it's pretty weak when turned up. The delay...i don't really use it as a delay it's that bad and unmanageable, i use to to thicken/fatten up my tone.

Title: Re: Pedals, effects, and such
Post by: shen on September 11, 2017, 12:13:18 PM
has anyone had much experience with joyo

I've no experience with boost pedals, but I've got a Joyo AC Tone amp emulator for silent recording which is pretty great.
Title: Re: Pedals, effects, and such
Post by: ~MM~ on September 23, 2017, 07:03:16 PM
has anyone had much experience with joyo> A cheap Chinese brand, i picked up joyo doner boost for less than 30 (-$38), now the reviews are pretty good on-line, my issue is I have no frame of reference for a boost pedal. A lot of reviews compare it favourably to some MXRs/higher budget pedals.

The reason I ask is

A) I wanted to post something musical here.
B) I use it as an always on boost specifically to add a bit of drive to any clean parts, and i quite like what it does when I stomp on my distortion pedals. However, i'm looking to buy a new one, to add some boost to any solos (think Smashing Pumpkins/Billy Corgan in Gish/Siamese Dream eras).

So anyone has have any opinions on these?

I've been reading a bit about these cheaper pedals flooding the market, and some appear to be straight-up copies of more expensive models and i'm impressed with the reviews, however I also have a cheap phaser + delay, the phaser is not so bad when it's turned to a low rate but it's pretty weak when turned up. The delay...i don't really use it as a delay it's that bad and unmanageable, i use to to thicken/fatten up my tone.
I've done some digging on them in the past and have a Voodoo Octave Fuzz pedal from them. It was cheaper than just buying the components and building them myself so it would be hard to complain ($25 if I remember), but that thing was nice before I cracked it open and it pretty great since I "modded" it.

From what I gather, Joyo typically takes famous effects of other companies and ghosts the circuitry. My Voodoo Octave for example is an exact copy of another famous octave fuzz that I don't recall where they reversed one diode. Go in, pull the diode, put it in proper orientation and it's the same effect, the fuzz is a bit livelier and the octave starts to really come out.

As far as boost pedals go, my experience is that there is some variance in how clean the boost is, despite most people wanting a clean boost out of them. I have a BBE Boosta Grande which I've heard has a pretty good reputation for being about as clean as boosts can get. On a clean amp channel it basically just ups the volume and give some slightly different dynamic and sustain, but mainly just the volume. You'll get a bit of added crunch on a distortion channel though. It definitely adds character to anything with distortion. I pretty much use mine as an always on in most cases as well. I'd best summarize it as a switch I can hit to make my pickups slightly hotter, but it adds a bit of specific seasoning as well. I wouldn't call it honky, got a bit more of a cry to it. Also they really tend to make harmonics stand out.
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